is ghost tweeting ever OK?

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Katie Moffat posted a really interesting question Twitter this morning for PRs regarding the etiquette of ghost tweeting and its got everyone joining in on the discussion. The conversation focused on is it ok to tweet on clients behalf without declaring it?

For generations PR have ghost written articles and press releases for clients but I think twitter in particular is impersonating someone’s voice, not simply writing up their opinion. I wouldn’t phone a journalist and pretend to be a client, or take a customer service/sales call and pretend to work for the client’s company so the same rules apply on twitter in my opinion. However, setting up the process for a client, running their RSS feeds, training them on how to use Twitter is all perfectly acceptable.

To me it is a question of openness and I always like to know who I am talking to and assume others feel the same.

Here are the responses Katie has received so far….what do you think?

DannyWhatmough @robin1966 @katiemoffat I agree with Robin half a minute ago from TweetDeck
Mer_16_small_normal michaelblowers @katiemoffat does it also matter what type of tweeter – OK if a corporate entity not so good if pretending to be the CEO? 18 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Clanger_normal robin1966 @katiemoffat reckon you can’t impersonate someone but if running a brand twitter feed then that’s different 20 minutes ago from Twitterrific
Profile_pic_bigger_bigger_normal jordanstone @katiemoffat i agree. that’s certainly the best approach. but there is room for PR to be involved, and help manage things 22 minutes ago from twhirl
2341_515654005920_283900112_1103734_4390_n_normal LitmanLive @katiemoffat I have ghost tweeted before so looking at this from both sides. I was fully immersed in the brand and it’s values at the time. 28 minutes ago from web
3059_186808815569_755860569_6492630_4819483_n_normal qwghlm @katiemoffat Good point – as Twitter can be used for variety of messages, maybe that means no clear cut answer? 31 minutes ago from Tweetie
Profile_pic_bigger_bigger_normal jordanstone @katiemoffat poor example on my part perhaps. point was though if we can manage other comms channels, or draft other comms content, why not? 32 minutes ago from twhirl
Jens-green-square_normal jenslapinski @katiemoffat wrong 35 minutes ago from web
3059_186808815569_755860569_6492630_4819483_n_normal qwghlm @katiemoffat As a parallel – adverts don’t disclose which agency came up with them. Nor do we expect them to. Higher standard for PR? 36 minutes ago from Tweetie
Profile_pic_bigger_bigger_normal jordanstone @katiemoffat chiming in. if you can run a press office on their behalf, or pen a byliner/press release, why not [jointly] manage a profile? 40 minutes ago from twhirl
Img_0770_normal mseasons @katiemoffat Sorry, I meant agree with the “if you’re well-briefed and have a good boundaries of what you can do then it’s awesome” part 41 minutes ago from digsby
Dsc05000_normal dr_whom @katiemoffat @mseasons kind of, I just don’t see that if it’s someone close to the person why it matters? 42 minutes ago from TweetDeck
Karen_normal karenbryan @katiemoffat Would you ghost tweet for client? Could PR agency do better job than client? As long as tweets didn’t come over as merely spin about 1 hour ago from web
2341_515654005920_283900112_1103734_4390_n_normal LitmanLive @katiemoffat Theoretically think you always have to disclose w/ talking about a client. In practice it’s evidently not always so clear cut. about 1 hour ago from web
Blonde-hair_normal bmcmichael @EbA @katiemoffat Yes but not in disguise….openness is key. Researching/setting up tools is fine…that’s just process…or plumbing about 1 hour ago from dabr
Img_0770_normal mseasons @katiemoffat Yes, of course. With two of our clients, we’re doing Twitter training along with, so we’re Tweeting *with* them instead of for. about 1 hour ago from digsby
Img_0770_normal mseasons @katiemoffat Chiming in if that’s ok? I agree with @dr_whom, but aim is always to have the client take over, esp. if it’s a personal account about 1 hour ago from web
Rflogo_normal RuderFinnUK @katiemoffat dodgy depends on you interpret the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 around professional best practice about 1 hour ago from web
Dsc05000_normal dr_whom @katiemoffat I wouldn’t expect it to be him but I’d expect it to be someone v. close to him. about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Marc_at_the_river2_normal giggsthelegend @katiemoffat not sure it is right, to me tweeting is like a personal conversation – ghost tweeting is like impersonating someone about 1 hour ago from Tweetie
Eb_twicpic2jpg_normal EbA @katiemoffat I don’t claim to have the answer but I think there are times when it’s ok to ghost tweet about 1 hour ago from Tweetie
Dsc05000_normal dr_whom @katiemoffat would you really read a Virgin feed thinking Branson is tweeting though? Would it matter? I’d be alarmed if he was! about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Blonde-hair_normal bmcmichael @katiemoffat Would we turn up to media briefings or sales meetings pretending to be the client? No..and the same rules apply with tweets IMO about 1 hour ago from web
Dsc05000_normal dr_whom @katiemoffat but isn’t hiring an expensive and brilliant writer (me) to do it for them a way of taking it on? I think so. about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Ghost_by_laurna_normal ghostwhisperers @CMRLee @katiemoffat ghost blogging/tweeting stimulates opinion with no ‘winner’ to any discussion. Do what you .. http://bit.ly/4fVcZL about 1 hour ago from twitterfeed
Neville09-190x242_normal jangles @CMRLee @katiemoffat ghost blogging/tweeting stimulates opinion with no ‘winner’ to any discussion. Do what you believe is right. about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Dsc05000_normal dr_whom @katiemoffat …it properly, so why not? @topfife lives in a dream world and when I next see him I will arm-wrestle him into submission. about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Me_normal tommalcolm @katiemoffat I hope you’ll be writing that blog post yourself 🙂 about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Chrisleects_normal CMRLee @jangles @katiemoffat in addition – http://bit.ly/yfT1f about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Dsc05000_normal dr_whom @katiemoffat if you’re well-briefed and have a good boundaries of what you can do then it’s awesome. Most companies don’t have time to do… about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Dsc05000_normal dr_whom @katiemoffat I ghost tweet so I have a vested interest in this – personally I think it’s the same as getting someone to write a PR for you. about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Chrisleects_normal CMRLee @jangles @katiemoffat ghost blogging/tweeting must be worth a fortune to the PR industry as a service. will the industry vote against it? about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Dscf0113_normal RichMillington @katiemoffat Agree, my thinking is if you’re happy to read ghost-written autobiographies, then is ghost-tweeting so bad? or ghost-blogging? about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Neville09-190x242_normal jangles @katiemoffat also read Paul Seaman’s contrary opinion on his blog. I disagree but his points are well argued. http://bit.ly/Xd7Td about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Chrisleects_normal CMRLee @jangles @katiemoffat whether ghost blogging/tweeting is right or wrong, it must be worth a fortune to the PR industry as a service about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Jtblue_normal JThomlinson RT @katiemoffat @drewb I agree. You should always be transparent! Never have any hidden ulterior motives… about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Wadds_normal wadds @katiemoffat We’re starting to share feeds with clients. Pros and cons are a longer conversation than a tweet about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Jtblue_normal JThomlinson RT @drewb @katiemoffat I’m having the same dilemma. Should PR agency’s poll Twitter on behalf of clients – or should the client do it? about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Me-now_normal kevindixie @katiemoffat I once had cabinet minister following me, tweeting all the time, when the PR team behind it mis-tweeted..was revealing about 1 hour ago from web
Neville09-190x242_normal jangles @katiemoffat without disclosure, totally wrong. http://bit.ly/1MCqJ (Whether it’s effective communication is an entirely different matter) about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
N504328204_860360_7241_normal PBizzle @katiemoffat True, but the similarity is that a PR person is shaping the communication – effectively putting the words in clients’ mouths about 1 hour ago from web
Dscf0113_normal RichMillington @drewb @katiemoffat Just curious If you’re against ghost-tweets, are you also against 99% of autobiographies? Where’s the line? about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
2a43b85bf6b9af7ed739a8657dcf53e4_normal jedhallam @katiemoffat I think that even Broadcast stuff should have a name attached to it about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
2a43b85bf6b9af7ed739a8657dcf53e4_normal jedhallam @katiemoffat Must always be transparent, Twitter is too intimate to be done without personality, and that persona needs a name behind it… about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Vero_sxsw-1_normal vero .@katiemoffat I hasten to add: @campaignmonitor tweets are all from internal staff, but companies could use that for PR folks too I reckon about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
N504328204_860360_7241_normal PBizzle @katiemoffat Doesn’t matter – PR agencies write all the releases, briefing docs, statements, messaging docs, byline articles as it is about 1 hour ago from web
Vero_sxsw-1_normal vero .@katiemoffat No need to shout it every msg, but bio shd say who tweets. Best approach is “team behind our tweets” bg like @campaignmonitor about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
Drewb_twitter_normal drewb @katiemoffat What do you mean by ghost tweeting? PR has a long history of writing on behalf of people / companies, in right and wrong ways! about 1 hour ago from web
Eb_twicpic2jpg_normal EbA @katiemoffat Tricky one. A few thoughts I jotted down on it last week: http://bit.ly/2sSmrF about 1 hour ago from Tweetie
N504328204_860360_7241_normal PBizzle @katiemoffat Corporate/brand accounts – yes. Personal accounts – definitely not. Depends what the feed is for really. 🙂 about 1 hour ago from web
Untitled-1_copy_normal peteyoung RT @katiemoffat: Would be interested in hearing everyone’s views on PR agencies ghost tweeting for clients (without transparency) – righ … about 2 hours ago from TweetDeck
Colinone_normal _Colin_ @katiemoffat imo not much difference between and agency tweeting or a member of staff so long as the tweet is true to the brand values etc about 2 hours ago from web
Abigail-lr_normal AbigailH @katiemoffat we would not for one of our clients. Would certainly guide them through the learning process tho’. You? about 2 hours ago from TweetDeck
Mememe_normal wehttam @katiemoffat for the most part: id rather not read them, only tweeting on behalf I agree with is http://twitter.com/drew/status/2707136867 about 2 hours ago from Seesmic
Photo_172_normal johnnyLander @katiemoffat So wrong! Twitter is all about the person isn’t it ? about 2 hours ago from TweetDeck
Tim_difford_2_normal timdifford @katiemoffat it’s the modern day equivalent of ‘secretarial’ autographs signed by the Beatles’ office staff. about 2 hours ago from TwitterFon
A_head_2_normal topfife @katiemoffat ghost-tweeting is bad in any circumstance. It’s supposed to be a direct, open & honest communication tool – not a brand booster about 2 hours ago from Tweetie

Wednesday 22nd July 2009
michaelblowers 11 min ago
@katiemoffat does it also matter what type of tweeter – OK if a corporate entity not so good if pretending to be the CEO? from TweetDeck
robin1966 13 min ago
@katiemoffat reckon you can’t impersonate someone but if running a brand twitter feed then that’s different from Twitterrific
jordanstone 16 min ago
@katiemoffat i agree. that’s certainly the best approach. but there is room for PR to be involved, and help manage things from twhirl
LitmanLive 21 min ago
@katiemoffat I have ghost tweeted before so looking at this from both sides. I was fully immersed in the brand and it’s values at the time. from web
qwghlm 24 min ago
@katiemoffat Good point – as Twitter can be used for variety of messages, maybe that means no clear cut answer? from Tweetie
jordanstone 25 min ago
@katiemoffat poor example on my part perhaps. point was though if we can manage other comms channels, or draft other comms content, why not? from twhirl
jenslapinski 28 min ago
@katiemoffat wrong from web
qwghlm 29 min ago
@katiemoffat As a parallel – adverts don’t disclose which agency came up with them. Nor do we expect them to. Higher standard for PR? from Tweetie
jordanstone 33 min ago
@katiemoffat chiming in. if you can run a press office on their behalf, or pen a byliner/press release, why not [jointly] manage a profile? from twhirl
mseasons 35 min ago
@katiemoffat Sorry, I meant agree with the “if you’re well-briefed and have a good boundaries of what you can do then it’s awesome” part from digsby
dr_whom 35 min ago
@katiemoffat @mseasons kind of, I just don’t see that if it’s someone close to the person why it matters? from TweetDeck
karenbryan 39 min ago
@katiemoffat Would you ghost tweet for client? Could PR agency do better job than client? As long as tweets didn’t come over as merely spin from web
LitmanLive 39 min ago
@katiemoffat Theoretically think you always have to disclose w/ talking about a client. In practice it’s evidently not always so clear cut. from web
bmcmichael 41 min ago
@EbA @katiemoffat Yes but not in disguise….openness is key. Researching/setting up tools is fine…that’s just process…or plumbing from dabr
mseasons 42 min ago
@katiemoffat Yes, of course. With two of our clients, we’re doing Twitter training along with, so we’re Tweeting *with* them instead of for. from digsby

new tool helps PRs search for URLs as well as brands on Twitter

PRs are often responsible for managing listening campaigns or monitoring programmes to see who’s saying what about a client, brand or product online.

There are great tools around for searching on names and also RTs but what about where links/announcements/press releases are discussed / shared without the client name or a direct retweet?

It is hard to monitor what is being said and also to pick up on any issues that may be being talked about.

A new tool called Backtweets let’s you search for whenever your URL is tweeted (doesn’t matter if it is shortened using BIT.LY etc) and adds another, more thorough search element to any monitoring campaign. Definitely worth trying.

This is cross posted on my employer’s blog.

(Spotted via  Steve Rubel )

the PR industry – current media trends and moans

I attended the Tech PR drinks last night put on by Mr Sturgeon (hat tip) and had a great time catching up with PR pals old and new.

A fair few of the conversations focused on how we are finding the media response currently (because us PR types really are that dull 🙂 ) and specifically what types of stories are getting covered, getting bumped right now.

Seems like everyone is facing the same issues which is always reassuring but thought I’d jot them down to reassure other PR folks they are not alone…

  • Roll your sleeves up. You have to work HARD for coverage – it is very competitive right now and you need a bloody good story
  • Negative, negative, negative. If it is a positive story, you’ll have to work even harder to get it in.
  • Chances are you’ll get bumped. If an MP resigns again or speculates about the date for an election, or slags off Brown, the majority of channels/press will bump your mid cap company’s growth or PR research story.
  • What they say and what they write are two different things. Don’t be fooled when you get to events and see trade mag editors talking up the industry and highlighting the shining stars, try pitching something like that editorially and it won’t make it through the door.
  • The silly season is around the corner, keep light hearted stories for that but avoid election timing at all costs.
  • Know when to hold. If you have a big project or big news on the business or political agenda and can hold it – do.  The risks of it getting bumped or getting missed over the summer are high.
  • What tech supplements? When putting together media lists, remember the majority of nationals are no longer carrying tech sections or supplements. Tech is just business – as my colleague Ged put it today, many successful tech businesses are media business now anyway and blue chips get covered through the usual financial/business pages.  If you represent US-based companies or smaller tech organisations, its time to creative when you dig out stories and news – think about where they’ll fit as you’ll come quickly unstuck if you try to pitch straight tech news to most of the nationals nowadays.
  • Work with freelance writers, they have to pitch stories all the time so if you some strong feature ideas, let them know.
  • Contact your contacts through new/different means to get noticed with good stories – in many cases you can forget the phone, email sucks – at the very least it needs to be personalised and tailored but even then in-boxes are bursting at the seams in most cases – never before has your contact book and own network (social/on line or otherwise) been so crucial.

What trends are you seeing?

You’re not here for a haircut: how to be a good PR consultant to clients

A little follow up post to my “how to be the perfect PR client” post from earlier this month, here’s a list of my top 10 tips for being a good PR consultant…love to hear your additions as always:

  1. Read. A lot.
  2. Consult them. A lot. Don’t *ever* just “yes” your clients (imagine pitching a release to Charles Arthur for example and then check it still sounds like a good release/angle/story?!) Be honest, follow your gut feeling.  If it sounds like marketing puff, don’t just keep quiet – speak up
  3. Contribute. Ideas, thoughts, advice, research, analysis
  4. Remember.  Names, faces, authors, briefings, actions – the list is endless but don’t let stuff slip
  5. Remember the smaller stuff too – birthdays, anniversaries, holiday destinations – ask questions and be interested
  6. Be visible. Hot desk at client’s offices, walk around and get to know everyone
  7. Be a “so what” test. Question things. Is it right? Will it work? What’s the objective? Why are you using that phrase? Is it different? Is it fresh? Because a client thinks it’s news, can you sell it? If not, why not? What *will* make it work? Offer solutions as well as questions….
  8. Be accepting. If you have advised a client about something and they ignore it- don’t take it personally – move on. Get over it
  9. Be positive and FULL of energy.  Guess what? You’re paid to be here so for God’s sake smile and engage properly – look for the positive in situations, don’t dismiss ideas without offering alternatives
  10. Over deliver…consistently. Always. Set targets and then blow them away

Any more for any more?